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Jim Staniforth

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Using multiple start points (Australian rules)
« on: February 25, 2018, 10:07:29 PM »
A friend is trying to enter a task in his CN (original) which can start at one of three start points.
I've never done this but thought I could stumble through. Wrong.
The big circles around turnpoints feature is well addressed, but I've searched for multiple start, Australia start, start point, etc and found nothing.
How do you put together and fly a task using multiple start points?
Thanks,
Jim

Evan Ludeman / T8

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Re: Using multiple start points (Australian rules)
« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2018, 04:04:49 AM »
As far as I know, CN / CN2 does not support multiple, simultaneously active start areas.

The work around is to edit the task once you've figured out which start you will use...

Can you post a link to an example task?
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Jim Staniforth

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Re: Using multiple start points (Australian rules)
« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2018, 01:47:01 PM »
In Australia the multiple start point is used for separation of traffic around the start "gate".
Here's a screen shot of part of the tasking pdf (I know that you can't attach large files here) with notes on the start points.
The waypoint list is available on soaringstuff:
http://www.soaringstuff.net/KeepitRegatta/
For example my start point choices were 02, 05, or 09.
The task was Narrabri, Mullaley, Breeza, Keepit.

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Re: Using multiple start points (Australian rules)
« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2018, 09:25:32 AM »
It's a regatta (and only 28 gliders!), not a competition.  Program the start you will use and fly it.  If for some really good reason you decide to use an alternate and don't want to re-program in flight, do a manual start on CN2 at the appropriate time.  The manual start does not require you to be in your programmed start area.

If this becomes part of Australian competition rules, then we should know about that... but really... this is so poorly conceived I can't imagine they would do this. 

At some US Nationals, dual start cylinders have been used (usually for more than 2x 28 gliders), 5 sm radius (i.e. large and roomy) and pilots were *assigned* to one or the other (that's the key).  If you have your pick of start areas and one looks preferable, what happens?
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Jim Staniforth

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Re: Using multiple start points (Australian rules)
« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2018, 07:40:49 AM »
Evan, it IS a part of Australian competition rules, which is why I asked.
I didn't get to fly with the CND or CN2 in the regatta (a competition with just as large stakes as any other) at Keepit.
Will talk with Rex in Reno.
Jim

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Re: Using multiple start points (Australian rules)
« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2018, 02:54:24 PM »
Gads.  Thanks Jim. 
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